# created
```dataview
LIST WITHOUT ID file.link
FROM -"windsurf"
WHERE file.cday = date(this.file.name) AND !startswith(file.folder, "windsurf")
SORT file.cday ASC
```
# modified
```dataview
LIST WITHOUT ID file.link
FROM -"windsurf"
WHERE file.mday = date(this.file.name) AND !startswith(file.folder, "windsurf")
SORT file.mday ASC
```
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# [[diary and thoughts]]
#thought #diary
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# Notes
# Takuya's talk
- Comparison between maths aesthetics and consciousness aesthetics? The maths thing is appreciating an idea, not a state of mind
- Might recreational drugs be a way of making experiences instantiate [[aesthetic properties]]?
- [[what does]] a balanced/empty/smooth/etc. experience have in common with the [[visual experience]] of these [[aesthetic properties]]
- You kind of run hallucination experience together with meditation experiences, and I am wondering if this is the right way to go.
- I think the point can be made in terms of inducing conscious experiences with [[aesthetic properties]] vs. noticing the aesthetic qualities of the current (any) conscious state.
- I wonder if meditation instructions can be thought of as a way of as being guided by an art critic? They are trying to inform you about
- there is seems to be something interesting about whether we are creating conscious states with [[aesthetic properties]], or whether we are finding these [[aesthetic properties]] which are always there.
- compare this with Ziff
- Maybe the difference is between appreciating raw consciousness/nature vs special states of consciousness/art
- Here is another idea. the [[conscious experience]] of mental action.
- me