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# [[diary and thoughts]]
#thought #diary
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# Notes
# How to progress with the paper?
#llmtext #brainstorm #paper/generatingphilosophy
## 0. Meta-principles that guide the whole strategy
• Separate conceptual research (What do **abduction**, **argument**, **virtue** really mean?)
from technical/engineering research (How do we code, reward and test those things?).
• For every proposed step keep two verification channels:
– philosophical literature / domain experts – empirical check with real LLM behaviour.
• Adopt an adversarial stance at each milestone (“How could this be wrong / unworkable?”).
• Document findings in a shared notebook; tag each item with “confident / plausible / shaky”.
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## 1. Clarify the core analogy: Proof ↔ Argument
1.1 Literature scan
• Target papers explicitly comparing **mathematical proofs** and **philosophical arguments**
(Leitgeb 2011; Aberdein 2020; MacFarlane on logical consequence; Toulmin model critiques).
• Check AI-sided analyses of proof ↔ argument (e.g. FOL-to-natural-language mapping work).
1.2 Concept mapping exercise
• List [[structural features]] of a Lean proof (axioms, lemmas, verification, binary correctness).
• List [[structural features]] of a philosophical argument (premises, warrants, defeaters, gradated plausibility).
• Highlight homologies **and** ineliminable disanalogies.
• Decide explicitly whether the project keeps [[the analogy]] “as is”, weakens it, or replaces it with a network-dependency picture (the previous Dellsén-style idea).
1.3 Failure mode probe
• Try to cast a notoriously controversial argument (e.g. Gettier counter-example) into the prover template.
• Record where the template breaks (premise contestation, lack of proof checker, etc.).
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## 2. Nail down what counts as “argument” and “theory”
2.1 Taxonomy of philosophical text types
• Short deductive argument; abductive explanatory sketch; conceptual analysis; thought experiment; dialectical exchange.
• Test which of these can sensibly be the target output of **PhiloSeeker-v1**.
2.2 Boundary experiments
• Prompt an existing LLM: “Give a three-premise argument for X” versus “Give a theory of X”.
• Evaluate with human raters: does the shorter, more controlled prompt yield higher clarity and evaluability?
2.3 Decision checkpoint
• If argument-only route is chosen, write a one-page spec: token budget, required sections (premise list, inference, objection, reply), style constraints.
• If broader “theory” route remains on the table, log extra costs: larger reward model, harder annotation, weaker verification signals.
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## 3. Operationalise abduction + [[theoretical virtues]]
3.1 Abduction landscape review
• Read: Harman (1965), Lipton (2004), Schupbach (2020), Williamson (2017), Douven (2017).
• Extract minimal set of features that a *machine-friendly* account must encode ([[explanatory power]], simplicity, predictive novelty).
3.2 Virtue taxonomy refinement
• Start from Keas’s four clusters; cross-check with other lists (Kuhn’s values, McMullin, Schindler).
• For each virtue write: (a) informal definition (b) at least one *proxy metric* (e.g. brevity/scope ratio for simplicity; cross-text entailment consistency for coherence).
3.3 Competing perspectives
• Pragmatist view: virtues are context-relative heuristics, not objective; may undermine metric-building.
• Bayesian view: virtues reduce to likelihoods and priors; could simplify rewards but risks triviality.
3.4 Verification paths
• Small pilot: feed 10 classic journal abstracts into crowdsourced raters → collect virtue ratings → train a quick classifier → see which virtues are learnable.
• If ≥ 60 % inter-rater agreement fails on a virtue, mark it “high-subjectivity”, treat with caution in RL.
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## 4. Replace Lean checker with a multi-signal “Virtue-Evaluator”
4.1 Signal inventory
• Static rule checks: basic logic validity, contradiction detection (off-the-shelf parsers).
• LLM critic chain: a separate model rates clarity, completeness, relevance.
• Human in the loop: expert panel scores high-level virtues monthly; outputs recalibrate virtue-discriminator.
• Adversarial “objection bot”: tries to refute premises; robustness score becomes a reward component.
4.2 Engineering research to schedule
• Study recent RLHF variants that support *vector* rewards rather than scalar (e.g. ParetoRL, Multi-objective PPO).
• Investigate open-source contradiction detectors (GPT-4o style “self-referee”) and argument mining libraries.
4.3 Pitfall watchlist
• Virtue signals may conflict (simplicity vs. [[explanatory depth]]). Need weighting or Pareto front approach.
• Reward hacking: model learns to game readability metrics without substantive improvement.
4.4 Back-up plan
• If virtue evaluator proves too noisy, fall back to a **two-stage** paper idea:
Stage 1 Model generates *argument blueprints* only, scored mainly on internal coherence (easier).
Stage 2 Separate study tackles full virtue portfolio.
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## 5. Data: collect, annotate, curate
5.1 Source selection
• Open-access philosophy journals, PhilPapers archive, [[Stanford Encyclopedia]] (SEP), structured debate sites.
• Ensure domain diversity: metaphysics, ethics, epistemology, philosophy of science.
5.2 Annotation guidelines draft
• Label spans: premises, conclusion, argumentative move (analogy, reductio, etc.).
• Virtue tags: coherence flag, simplicity rating (1-5), cited evidence quality (yes/no/weak).
5.3 Automated bootstrapping
• Run argument mining models to pre-segment texts; human annotators correct; yields scalable pipeline.
5.4 Ethical/Legal check
• Verify licences; decide on excerpting vs. full texts; respect journal copyrights.
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## 6. People, timeline, and resource coordination
6.1 Expert outreach
• Set up short interviews with:
– Michelle (epistemic virtues) – Takuya Nikawa (methodology / cross-cultural reasoning)
– One logician working with Lean or IsaCoq – One argumentation theorist (informal logic community).
6.2 Milestone sketch (subject to change once above clarifications land)
• T + 2 weeks Core analogy white-paper (Work-streams 1–2).
• T + 1 month Virtue-metric spec + annotated pilot dataset (Work-streams 3–5).
• T + 3 months Prototype virtue evaluator + RL sandbox experiments.
• T + 6 months Draft of “Paper 1: Argument-generating LLM”.
6.3 Tooling
• Version-controlled repo for annotations (GitHub + DVC).
• Shared Zotero library for literature; tag each entry with “analogy / virtues / abduction / proof”.
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## 7. Final self-audit & reflective reset
Before locking in the plan, run one more pass asking:
• Have we conflated “makes sense to us” with “likely implementable at scale”?
• Are we over-committing to Keas’s taxonomy—should we keep a placeholder for alternative virtue lists?
• Is the philosophical community likely to accept automated virtue scoring as *meaningful evidence*?
If not, build a subsection explicitly defending the move.
• Could the **previous** Dellsén-style “network of dependencies” approach actually be a better near-term path?
Set aside one afternoon to re-evaluate it against the above work-streams.
Only after this reflective checkpoint should you green-light resource allocation and begin detailed literature reviews and coding.
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### Bottom line
Your immediate next actions are:
1. Conduct the proof-argument analogy literature sweep (Work-stream 1.1).
2. Draft a one-page definition of “argument” for PhiloSeeker-v1 and circulate it for quick feedback (Work-stream 2.3).
3. Build a small virtue-rating pilot with 5–10 texts to test inter-rater reliability and metric learnability (Work-stream 3.4).
These three steps will reveal whether the rest of the plan rests on solid ground or needs a pivot.