# Visual Experience of Natural Kinds -Is there any fact of the matter -Logue **Opening (not a real abstract):** Pretty much everyone agrees that we can visually experience something’s color, shape, size, and location properties. For example, in having a visual experience of a banana, I might experience its yellowness, its crescent‐shapedness, its being about six inches long and about a foot to my right. But are there any other properties we can visually experience? For example, can I visually experience the banana’s property of being a banana? This question is an instance of a more general one, namely: can we visually experience natural kind properties?2 This question is the focus of this paper. In section 1, I will explain how this question figures in a larger debate. In section 2, I will evaluate two arguments for an affirmative answer to this question, and conclude that neither one is decisive. In section 3, I will evaluate two arguments for a negative answer, and